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That Other Thing We Committed Ourselves To As Christians


I didn’t go to pastor's meetings.  That's right.  I was a pastor, but I didn’t go to pastor's meetings.  I used to make excuses.  I used to say that I was too busy to go.  True enough, but not the real reason.  Eventually, I gave up on the right sounding answer. Instead, I waved the white towel of truth: The reason I didn't go to pastors meetings is that I didn't like them.  Nothing holy. Nothing spiritual.  I simply didn't like them.

 

If you're not a pastor, you probably don't care.  But the pastors in my local Baptist affiliation cared very much.  I didn’t hear from all of them.  But I caught enough riff raff through the grapevine to guess that my lack of attendance at the monthly breakfast was interpreted as disinterest in the denomination at the very least, and an unwillingness for accountability, at the very most.

 

Wrong on both counts.  I do need accountability and I liked the Conservative Baptist movement at least enough to represent them as a national evangelist, visiting and ministering to Baptist churches from coast to coast (something I did for many years).

 

Why then, do I not like the Pastor's Fellowship?  Because it's not fellowship.  It’s a time to sit and listen to yet another lecture.    

 

When I first became a Christian, I thought I'd committed myself to a lifetime of adventure; an adventure known as the refinement of the soul.  In no time at all, I realized that being a Christian actually meant commitment to something else, something seldom discussed and seldom confessed; boredom.  I'm sorry you had to hear this from a pastor of all people, but somebody had to say it.  Uh huh. Boredom; that time when our mind says "I'll be back to stimulate you in a moment. Can I put you on pause?"  Between hour long sermons, seminars, church business meetings, 6 session retreats and pastors' fellowships, I had made an informal, un-worded pledge to sit and listen to people talk for the rest of my life. Depressing, isn't it? 

 

Now, I wouldn't mind, if people honestly had an endless supply of fascinating conversation, but how many times in 12 years can we hear messages from John 16 and Romans 3?  How many times in one week can we hear about the importance of a quiet time?  Quiet time. Gee, that has a nice ring... 

 

Don't misunderstand me.  Nothing is more important than the gospel.  But it seems that in the New Testament, Christian lifestyle consisted of actions, where as today our lifestyle consists of lectures, which talk about actions.

 

Life is awfully short.  We spend 8 hours a day sleeping.  That's one third of the day; which comes out to one third of our life.  I suspect that if we added up the sermons and discussions we would come up with another third.  Frightening, a third of our life, sleeping, a third of our life feeling like sleeping.  Not that I mind preaching, myself. That's different.  That's fun. Why? Because when I preach myself, I don't have to listen to any one else. When I speak, I'm doing something but alas, my activity is made possible only by turning others numb and docile.  Of course, there are exceptions and wonderful speakers.  I'm sharing in generalities right now.

 

CONCLUSION: Sermons and lectures may be a part of the Christian pilgrimage but I'm convinced they were never meant to be the largest part. On the other hand, genuine accountability and fellowship are exciting, especially when they take place in the midst of family type community.  This is the authentic experience of Christ's kingdom, a sanctuary, where masks are dropped, sins are confessed, and unconditional acceptance is offered.  Such community is active, not passive.  Such community reaches out and demonstrates the love of Jesus.  I do experience this community to a substantial degree in my church.  Our church, like most, I suppose, constantly battles to remain a family and not a social club.  Perhaps the day will come when Pastor's Fellowships do the same thing but I have my doubts.  Many pastors feel they can't justify activities unless they include spiritual agendas.  And somehow, today's generation has bought the idea that spirituality can't take place without lectures and business meetings.  But I have hope that things will change.  On that day, I'll return to enjoy the Pastor's Breakfast and hope they have bacon and eggs to go with the pancakes they had last time.


Other thoughts on Christianity by Bob Siegel

1) Skeptical Questions About Christianity (Apologetics)

 

Can The Existence of God Be Proven?

 

If The Gospel Was Fake, This Would Have Been A Really Dumb Thing To Include

 

Did Jesus Fulfill Bible Prophecy? Isaiah 53

 

Was Jesus The Promised Messiah? Daniel 9

 

Just What Is It About Genesis That You Find So Illogical?

 

Is The DaVinci Code Something to be Taken Seriously?

 

Try To Follow This Logic: If God Exists, God is Real.

 

My Brief Time In the Occult

 

How Do We Know Which Manuscript Copies Truly Belong In The Bible?

 

Why Are There Different Versions of the Bible?

 

Three Questions That Test Your Friend's Opinions

 

The Day God Gave Me One Hundred Dollars (And Believe Me; I didn't Deserve It)

 

The Day A Scholar Said Scholars Aren't Scholarly

 

Why Do Most People Think God Will Not Talk?

 

A Biblical Case For Authentic Healing: No, I Don't Mean That "Name It, Claim It" Nonsense.

 

Does the Bible Really Speak About the Future?

 

 

2) The Nature of God

 

Does The Bible Teach That God Is Everything or that God Created Everything?

 

Of course the Trinity is Impossible! Haven't You Ever Studied Math?

 

Does God Have a Sense of Humor?

 

 

3) Questions About Jesus

 

Was Jesus Gay?

 

Was Jesus A False Prophet?

 

Did Jesus Really Claim To Be God?

 

Did Jesus Really Claim to be The Messiah?

 

 

4) Moral Objections to Christianity

 

Oh, That Horrible Christianity!

 

Subsiding All The Passion Over "The Passion"

 

Was Judas Forgiven?

 

If You Don't Like Her, Take It Up With Jesus

 

Behavior Not Even A Christian Apologist Can Defend

 

Evidently Christians Don't Hold A Monopoly On Stupidity

 

A Pro-Choice Christmas Card?

 

Are Christian Ministers Just In It For The Money?

 

Got A Beef Against Religion? You May Have Something In Common With Jesus!

 

 

5) Questions About Church Life and Church Practices

 

My High View of Church Kept Me From Church

 

Is Persecution Good For The Church?

 

Are Christians Expected to Keep the Sabbath?

 

Is Tithing Really Biblical?

 

The Prayer Game

 

Oh Yeah? Well David Did Alot of Stupid Things

 

I Rolled Down The Window So God Could Hear Me A Little Better

 

Children Cry and Parents Deny

 

Trouble in Paradise

 

He Told Me My Prayer Was Not A Valid Prayer

 

How Should We Pray For Healing?

 

 

 

6) Theology Questions

 

Cherry Picking Our Doctrines

 

St. Bob's Epistle To The Calvinists

 

Baptism: To Dip Or Not To Dip

 

 

7) Christianity and Its Relationship To Other Religions

 

Is Mormonism Really a Cult? Let's Finally Settle This Once and For All

 

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian Part One

 

The Mystery of Anti-Semitism: Have You Heard The One About the Jew and the Nitwit?

 

How To Cause A Muslim Freudian Slip

 

Calling God Allah: What's In A Name?

 

Christianity, Judaism and Islam: Comparison

 

 

8) Christianity and Its Relationship to the Rest of the World

 

Does Jesus Belong on the College Campus?

 

Can A Christian Be Pragmatic?

 

The No Longer Sacred Santa

 

I'm Not Doing It For the Warthog and the Pine Cone

 

Now Kids, Keep The Name of the Holiday a Secret

 

 

9) Assurance of Salvation

 

How Does One Become a Christian?

 

Can't I Accept Christ On My Deathbed?

 

What is the Unforgivable Sin and How Do I Know If I've Committed It?

 

Does The Bible Teach An Age of Accountability?

 

 


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