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Honestly, He Loves America! We Can See Where It May Not Look That Way.

The defenses keep rolling in for Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Perry Mason himself couldn’t come up with such creative cases.  Have you heard the latest? Wright loves America. Honestly, he does! That’s why he’s so critical of America.

 

Wow! Hmm…Yeah...That’s a good one.  I have to wonder though: If this is the way he talks when he loves America, what on earth would he say if he hated America? I don’t think there are any hateful, bitter, or inflammatory words left. He’s used them all up.

 

Let’s see:  Because Wright loves America, he said that America is deserving of 9/11 and America invented the AIDS virus. That’s how he expresses his love for America. This is like a man calling his wife a prostitute and then saying, “Now I can talk like this to you because I love you.” No, I take back the analogy. Because the explanation of “harsh talk due to tough love” has never been offered by Wright. It’s only offered by Wright’s supporters who are learning that “denial is more than a river in Egypt.”

 

I suppose anything is possible. Maybe this is the way Wright shows love. If so, I guess when he gave an award to the NAZI, Louis Farrakhan, that was his way of showing disapproval.

Also by Bob Siegel:

 

Obama Didn't Know His Pastor's Views? Sure, Now I'll Tell One

 

Would Obama's Christianity Be Recognized by Jesus?

 

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Got A Problem? Blame Bush!

During Bush’s first term, when people were blaming him for everything imaginable, many of us joked that sooner or later they would blame Bush for the weather too. Then Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana and the joke became reality. Bush was blamed because of his lack of interest in Global Warming. He was also blamed for his failure to respond soon enough. In fact, Bush “responded” even before Katrina hit, offering to federalize the Louisiana National Guard.  Governor Kathleen Blanco turned him down.

 

Oh well.  It doesn’t matter. Clearly this hurricane was the fault of that horrible George W. Bush. But it was a long time ago and the blame no longer sounds so far fetched. Therefore, to keep the subject interesting and relevant, here are some other things you can blame on George W. Bush.

 

Top Ten New Things You Can Blame On The President.

10) Returned letter because you forgot to put on a stamp.

Explanation: You were forgetful because you were understandably distracted, thinking about the horrible policies of George Bush.

9) Your kid fails his reading test and is unable to pronounce the words.

Explanation: The kid was just mimicking the President when he stuttered over words in his speeches.

8) Your local grocery store was robbed.

Explanation: The crook was probably unemployed and needed to feed his family. He would have been employed if not for George Bush.

7) Flat tire

Explanation: Rubber comes from trees.Trees are as alive as human beings. A tree was cut down by imperialist lumberjacks. The rubber in the tire couldn’t perform its function properly because it was never meant to exist in a tire in the first place and only exits there due to evil, rich companies who do the bidding of… George Bush

6) Your girlfriend broke up with you.

Explanation: It’s because you watch too many of those violent action movies and these movies remind her of George Bush.

5) Computer virus:

Explanation: Al Gore invented the Internet and not George Bush. Had he been made President, computer viruses would have been done away with by now.

4) Your Slurpee at 7-ll ran out of cola too soon, so that in no time at all, you have all ice.

Explanation: The quick evaporation was due to Global Warming, which George Bush won’t do anything about.

3) On cable television, TV Land comes in better than Bravo.

Explanation: Bravo shows those liberal Hollywood movies, where as TV Land shows unrealistic family programming like Leave It To Beaver. This is no coincidence. Probably the Bush administration and the FCC have a conspiracy to ban channels like Bravo.

2) Price of gasoline is too high.

Explanation: It’s because we are in Iraq where we can take their oil. Of course  we haven’t taken their oil. Come to think of it, if we really did take their oil, the price of gas would have gone down. But we might take it someday and that’s why it went up.

1) People are coming across our boarders and our government won’t do anything about it.

Well, I hate to say this, but that one you really can blame on George Bush.

 

 

 
Some of Bob’s other controversial posts:


Politically Correct Quiz

Jihad Drill
Also:

If You Think This Is Change, You'd Better Think Again

Posted at 1:07:10 PM on Friday, February 01, 2008

It's NOT the Economy, Stupid! In fact, It's NONE of the Issues Being Debated

And:

Maybe It's Everyone's Fault But The One Who Did It

Posted at 1:05:15 AM on Friday, December 07, 2007

A Pro-Choice Christmas Card?

Posted at 1:25:45 AM on Thursday, December 06, 2007

What About Baby Women?

Posted at 9:32:55 AM on Wednesday, December 05, 2007

Is Persecution Good For The Church?

Posted at 9:56:50 AM on Tuesday, December 04, 2007

I'm Not Doing It For the Warthog and the Pine Cone

Posted at 1:12:53 AM on Monday, December 03, 2007

 

Pardon Me, But I Thought You Liberals Liked Pardons

Posted at 12:08:54 AM on Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Oh, I Love Celtic Women. I'm Just Not Wild About PBS

Posted at 12:10:22 AM on Tuesday, December 11, 2007

 

Peace In The Middle East? I believe in the Tooth Fairy Too

Posted at 12:19:09 AM on Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Don't Protest! After All, "Agenda" Is Your Middle Name

Posted at 11:34:11 AM on Monday, November 26, 2007

No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

Posted at 12:17:06 AM on Sunday, November 25, 2007

Are Feminists Really Concerned About The Rights of All Women?

Posted at 12:19:58 AM on Saturday, November 24, 2007

Just Let The Kid March In The Stupid Band

Posted at 12:17:30 PM on Friday, November 23, 2007


So What If He's A Mormon? Posted at 4:05:11 AM on Sunday, December 16, 2007

 

One Thing We Can Know Right Away Posted at 11:53:06 AM on Thursday, December 27, 2007

 

Maybe Next Time Big Bird Can Be The Moderator Posted at 1:16:39 AM on Saturday, December 15, 2007

 

2007 Oh, That Horrible Christianity!

Posted at 4:53:43 AM on Thursday, December 13, 2007

 

The Bob Siegel Show can be heard every Sunday from 3:00 to 4:00 PM on KCBQ 1170 on the dial or KCBQ.com to listen live over the Internet.

Call in toll free number if you want to join in the program with questions or comments:

1-888-344-1170

Bob’s website is: www.bobsiegel.net

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We're Making An Offer You Can't Refuse

Pope Benedict XVI has come under fire for baptizing Maggli Allam, a former Muslim who converted to Christianity.

 

Funny how when Muslims convert to Christianity it’s always an outrage. Indeed, both converts and evangelists have put their lives in danger from angry Muslims. On the other hand, when Christians convert to Islam, when the new transformation is going that other direction, it’s perfectly all right.

 

Look, both religions claim to be true. So let them make their cases. Some will be persuaded.  Some won’t.  On the side of Christianity?  Fulfilled prophecy, archaeological confirmation of the Bible, eyewitness accounts for the resurrection and the corroboration of other ancient historians. On the side of Islam? A great big sword that can slice your head clean off.

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

 

Other posts about the Bible and Christianity, its relationship to other religions and its relationship to today’s culture

 Are Christians Expected to Keep the Sabbath?

Can I Say Something To You In Love?

Does the Bible Really Speak About the Future?

My Brief Time In the Occult

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:34 AM

How a Reformed Jew Became An Evangelical Christian Part One Posted at 1:17:45 PM on Tuesday, January 22, 2008




Part Two: How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part 3

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part Four

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian Part Five

Does The Bible Teach An Age of Accountability?

Christianity, Judaism and Islam: Comparison Posted at 2:33:20 AM on Sunday, January 20, 2008

 Subsiding All The Passion Over "The Passion"

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:29 PM

Peace In The Middle East? I believe in the Tooth Fairy Too Posted at 12:19:09 AM on Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Was Jesus Gay? Posted at 1:40:29 PM on Friday,

Three Questions That Test Your Friend's Opinions Posted at 5:08:47 AM on Monday, December 24, 2007

What is the Unforgivable Sin and How Do I Know If I've Committed It? Posted at 1:39:18 PM on Tuesday, January 01, 2008

Does The Bible Teach That God Is Everything or that God Created Everything? Posted at 11:07:40 AM on Friday, December 28, 2007

Was Jesus A False Prophet? Posted at 11:43:45 AM on Friday, December 21, 2007

Cherry Picking Our Doctrines Posted at 3:49:31 AM on Tuesday, December 18, 2007

 St. Bob's Epistle To The Calvinists Posted at 1:15:38 AM on Monday, December 17, 2007

How Do We Know Which Manuscript Copies Truly Belong In The Bible?

Friday, January 11, 2008 1:5

Why Are There Different Versions of the Bible?

Is The DaVinci Code Something to be Taken Seriously?

How Does One Become a Christian?

Are Christian Ministers Just In It For The Money?

I'm Not Doing It For the Warthog and the Pine Cone

Calling God Allah: What's In A Name?

If You Don't Like Her, Take It Up With Jesus

Why This Evangelical Christian Minister Does Not Support Huckabee

So What If He's A Mormon?

Was Joseph Smith Really a Prophet of God?

Is Mormonism Really a Cult? Let's Finally Settle This Once and For All

Oh, That Horrible Christianity!

Pro-Choice Christmas Card?

Is Persecution Good For The Church?

Was Judas Forgiven?

Can A Christian Be Pragmatic?

Oh Yeah? Well David Did Alot of Stupid Things

Score Another For The Religion of Peace

Don't Protest! After All, "Agenda" Is Your Middle Name

A Politically Correct Thanksgiving Message For Kids

Evidently Christians Don't Hold A Monopoly On Stupidity

Behavior Not Even A Christian Apologist Can Defend

How To Cause A Muslim Freudian Slip

 

The Bob Siegel Show can be heard every Sunday from 3:00 to 4:00 PM on KCBQ 1170 on the dial or KCBQ.com to listen live over the Internet.

Call in toll free number if you want to join in the program with questions or comments:

1-888-344-1170

Bob’s website is: www.bobsiegel.net

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Can The Existence of God Be Proven?

In my book, I’d Like To Believe In Jesus, But… I make the point that God’s existence cannot be proven or disproved.  Instead of claiming to prove the existence of God, Christians and other theists should offer evidence.  I define evidence as that which points to a high probability that a given claim is true. I define proof as something we can observe with our own senses. In science, nothing is proven unless it is repeatable. Since none of us were there when the universe came into existence, we cannot prove or disprove God.

 

There is, however, another definition of proof, that of an observable, working equation. Let me say this as carefully as I can: If we want to use this mathematical definition, then there is a proof for the existence of God.  At the moment we are not talking about the God of the Bible. That’s a whole different subject and we would have to study historical evidence for those kinds of conclusions, but the proof for some type of deity? Sure! Absolutely!  In fact, it’s really quite simple:

 

Something had to always exist. You can’t get something out of nothing. This something had to be a personality, not a human, necessarily, but some kind of thinking, feeling, sentient being. Why do I say that? Because otherwise there is no explanation for the origin of personality. This is the fundamental hurdle in the field of artificial intelligence. Can a computer ever become self aware? Is it possible to recreate the brain with its ability to think? Can sentience be produced in the laboratory?  Only time will answer these questions but meanwhile they beg the much bigger question. Since stars and rocks and dust cannot think and since chemicals (outside the chemicals of the brain) cannot think,  where did personality come from?  Do we get the personal from the personal or do we get the personal from the impersonal?

 

Now we can add it up like an equation:  0+0=0.  The alternative equation goes like so: If something had to always exist, if you can’t get something out of nothing, and if the personal must come from the personal, then this something which always existed is some kind of eternal personality. We have offered a proof for the existence of God.

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

Other posts about the Bible and Christianity, its relationship to other religions and its relationship to today’s culture

 Are Christians Expected to Keep the Sabbath?

Can I Say Something To You In Love?

Does the Bible Really Speak About the Future?

My Brief Time In the Occult

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:34 AM

How a Reformed Jew Became An Evangelical Christian Part One Posted at 1:17:45 PM on Tuesday, January 22, 2008




Part Two: How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part 3

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part Four

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian Part Five

Does The Bible Teach An Age of Accountability?

Christianity, Judaism and Islam: Comparison Posted at 2:33:20 AM on Sunday, January 20, 2008

 Subsiding All The Passion Over "The Passion"

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:29 PM

Peace In The Middle East? I believe in the Tooth Fairy Too Posted at 12:19:09 AM on Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Was Jesus Gay? Posted at 1:40:29 PM on Friday,

Three Questions That Test Your Friend's Opinions Posted at 5:08:47 AM on Monday, December 24, 2007

What is the Unforgivable Sin and How Do I Know If I've Committed It? Posted at 1:39:18 PM on Tuesday, January 01, 2008

Does The Bible Teach That God Is Everything or that God Created Everything? Posted at 11:07:40 AM on Friday, December 28, 2007

Was Jesus A False Prophet? Posted at 11:43:45 AM on Friday, December 21, 2007

Cherry Picking Our Doctrines Posted at 3:49:31 AM on Tuesday, December 18, 2007

 St. Bob's Epistle To The Calvinists Posted at 1:15:38 AM on Monday, December 17, 2007

How Do We Know Which Manuscript Copies Truly Belong In The Bible?

Friday, January 11, 2008 1:5

Why Are There Different Versions of the Bible?

Is The DaVinci Code Something to be Taken Seriously?

How Does One Become a Christian?

Are Christian Ministers Just In It For The Money?

I'm Not Doing It For the Warthog and the Pine Cone

Calling God Allah: What's In A Name?

If You Don't Like Her, Take It Up With Jesus

Why This Evangelical Christian Minister Does Not Support Huckabee

So What If He's A Mormon?

Was Joseph Smith Really a Prophet of God?

Is Mormonism Really a Cult? Let's Finally Settle This Once and For All

Oh, That Horrible Christianity!

Pro-Choice Christmas Card?

Is Persecution Good For The Church?

Was Judas Forgiven?

Can A Christian Be Pragmatic?

Oh Yeah? Well David Did Alot of Stupid Things

Score Another For The Religion of Peace

Don't Protest! After All, "Agenda" Is Your Middle Name

A Politically Correct Thanksgiving Message For Kids

Evidently Christians Don't Hold A Monopoly On Stupidity

Behavior Not Even A Christian Apologist Can Defend

How To Cause A Muslim Freudian Slip

 

The Bob Siegel Show can be heard every Sunday from 3:00 to 4:00 PM on KCBQ 1170 on the dial or KCBQ.com to listen live over the Internet.

Call in toll free number if you want to join in the program with questions or comments:

1-888-344-1170

Bob’s website is: www.bobsiegel.net

 

 

 

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Are Christians Expected to Keep the Sabbath?

“Are most Christians being disobedient about the Sabbath? Recently I met some people from the Seventh Day Adventist Church. They claim that Saturday is the true Sabbath day, not Sunday. That’s why they hold their church services on Saturday. They even have Sabbath School instead of Sunday School.”

 

Let’s quickly deal with the easy part of the question. Then we’ll get into the heart of it.  For the record, Saturday is the Sabbath day, not Sunday. The Seventh Day Adventists are correct about the day. However, we’re avoiding an even more obvious question: So what? It’s not as if we are getting a new revelation here. Those who worship on Sunday are already very aware that the original Jewish Sabbath was on Saturday. They know this even if they go their whole lives without meeting a Seventh Day Adventist. They do not worship on Sunday because they are confused as to what day of the week it is. They worship on Sunday because that’s the day Jesus rose from the dead. There is no command in the New Testament as to what day one must go to church. It just so happens that Sunday was chosen for a particular reason and this tradition has remained.

 

Now, it’s true that sometimes Christians (aware that Saturday is the Sabbath) still incorrectly refer to Sunday as a Sabbath. I say incorrectly because Sunday is anything but a day of rest and that is what the original Sabbath was about, rest.  True, it was meant to be a day of reflection as well, but primarily the Sabbath was a day when people stopped working.

 

“For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD.” Ex. 31:15

 

Is Sunday a restful day for your pastor?  It’s probably his busiest day of the week.  Is he being a bad example by “working hard” in front of us? What about the rest of the staff?  What about the deacons, the Sunday School teachers, the ushers, those who work in the nursery?  In fact, to any church member, Sunday is not supposed to be a passive experience but very active with heart felt worship, meaningful fellowship and interaction, even the confession of sins. Is this a rest?  If you think it is, I hope I never go on a vacation with you. On my day off, I lay on the beach. I don’t go to church. In fact, on my day off, I can think of about a hundred things I’d rather do than go to church.

 

OK, now that we’ve straightened out which day the Sabbath comes on, let’s move press forward to what was probably the heart of the surface question: Are Christians commanded to obey the Sabbath Day whatever day of the week it is?

 

They are not! Jesus came to offer a New Covenant.

 

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law and the Prophets.   I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them” (Matt.  5:17).

 

As Christians we are no longer under the law, but rather, a fulfillment of the law. What does this mean exactly? In what way is the law fulfilled?  To start with, instead of outward commands, God offers us a relationship with His Spirit who changes our hearts and makes us (hopefully) so loving that we no longer need commands such as “Don’t Kill” or “Don’t Steal” or Don’t Mess Around With Your Neighbor’s Wife.”  If we are already loving, if we are already unselfish, if we are already treating people the way we want to be treated, those incentives will come naturally.

 

“In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you.  For this sums up the Law and the Prophets” (Matt.  7:12).

 

We call this a fulfillment of the Moral Law. The other part of the law, Ritual Law, was fulfilled through Jesus’ death on the cross. The animal sacrifices of old were a foreshadowing of what Jesus would later do for all people. The blood of lambs and bulls provided a picture of atonement so that people needing to be saved by Jesus could be saved before He even came.

 

Admittedly, there is some confusion and controversy over exactly what kind of law the Sabbath was, ritual or moral. I would place it in the category of a ritual, such as, other commanded feasts and holy days. But wherever we anchor this custom, it is undeniable that the Sabbath was a part of the Mosaic Law one way or the other and this law has been fulfilled by Jesus who asks us to live under the New Covenant.

 

When people like the Seventh Day Adventists single out a command such as the Sabbath as a law that we must continue to honor, they open a whole new can of worms that Paul addressed when he wrote the Galatians.  The Galatians had isolated circumcision as a practice to continue, even under the New Covenant.  Paul told them that if they were going to return to the law they must embrace the entire law (Gal 5:3). They could not cherry pick the ones they wanted and ignore all the others. Nobody today, claiming to follow the law, takes Paul's words to heart.

 

Oddly enough, The Seventh Day Adventists themselves serve as the greatest example of the irony. Have they returned to the animal sacrifices (almost half of the laws)?  Of course not. But they have added a new a prohibition against eating meat. Yes, my Adventist friends are vegetarians!  This is somewhat perplexing in as much as meat was not only allowed in the Old Testament but actually commanded in certain feasts like the Passover.  So why aren’t they honoring that part of the law?

 

But I don’t want to address this question through arguments of logic or consistency alone. The scripture actually settles the issue quite clearly:

 

Col 2:16-17

Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.

 

It is difficult to hold on to some kind of New Testament Sabbath command after reading a verse like this.

 

“But now I’m more confused than ever. I can understand how Jesus fulfilled animal sacrifices. That makes sense.  I can also see how the Holy Spirit put God’s law in our hearts, fulfilling the Moral Law. But how did Jesus fulfill the Sabbath?”

 

That’s an excellent question and the book of Hebrews provides a long, detailed, complicated answer. Relax. Here are the cliff notes:

 

Originally it was God who rested from creation on the seventh day. To some of the ancient Rabbis, this did not mean a literal 24-hour day. They believed that the seventh day, or Sabbath Day, continues and that enjoying God’s creation is an ongoing, non-stop celebration of the Sabbath Day.

 

Had life remained a paradise, this rest, or celebration, would have been easier to understand. Unfortunately, when Adam and Eve fell into sin, everything changed, including the world itself.

 Rom 8:20-21
For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.



 

When Jesus returns, He will restore the world to the Garden of Eden type paradise it once was. This means enjoying the Sabbath and living in God’s kingdom are one and the same thing. Christ has not returned yet, but He does offer a relationship with you now, a relationship in which the kingdom of God can rule in your heart and give you peace. This experience, according the author of Hebrews, provides a sample or foreshadowing of Christ’s future kingdom. He called it “tasting of the powers of the age to come" (Heb 6:5).

 

In short, being delivered from sin, placed in harmony with God’s kingdom, His rule and His paradise creation, is the authentic way to experience the Sabbath. It’s true that God also gave the ancient Hebrews a day of the week that looked toward this, a day to rest from their labors and meditate more on Him. This is still a good idea as far as practical advice goes, but there is no longer any commandment or any holiness associated with a particular day of the week. What is special, is resting from our own labors and basking in our relationship with the Spirit of God who gives us a sample of what it will be like when the whole world is restored to God’s Paradise, also called God’s Sabbath.

 

Scripture taken from THE HOLY BIBLE

New International Version  NIV

Copyright  1973, 1979, 1984 by International Bible Society

Used by permission of Zondervan Publishing House.

All rights reserved.

 

Other posts about the Bible and Christianity, its relationship to other religions and its relationship to today’s culture

 

Can I Say Something To You In Love?

Does the Bible Really Speak About the Future?

My Brief Time In the Occult

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:34 AM

How a Reformed Jew Became An Evangelical Christian Part One Posted at 1:17:45 PM on Tuesday, January 22, 2008



Part Two: How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part 3

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part Four

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian Part Five

Does The Bible Teach An Age of Accountability?

Christianity, Judaism and Islam: Comparison Posted at 2:33:20 AM on Sunday, January 20, 2008

 Subsiding All The Passion Over "The Passion"

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:29 PM

Peace In The Middle East? I believe in the Tooth Fairy Too Posted at 12:19:09 AM on Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Was Jesus Gay? Posted at 1:40:29 PM on Friday,

Three Questions That Test Your Friend's Opinions Posted at 5:08:47 AM on Monday, December 24, 2007

What is the Unforgivable Sin and How Do I Know If I've Committed It? Posted at 1:39:18 PM on Tuesday, January 01, 2008

Does The Bible Teach That God Is Everything or that God Created Everything? Posted at 11:07:40 AM on Friday, December 28, 2007

Was Jesus A False Prophet? Posted at 11:43:45 AM on Friday, December 21, 2007

Cherry Picking Our Doctrines Posted at 3:49:31 AM on Tuesday, December 18, 2007

 St. Bob's Epistle To The Calvinists Posted at 1:15:38 AM on Monday, December 17, 2007

How Do We Know Which Manuscript Copies Truly Belong In The Bible?

Friday, January 11, 2008 1:5

Why Are There Different Versions of the Bible?

Is The DaVinci Code Something to be Taken Seriously?

How Does One Become a Christian?

Are Christian Ministers Just In It For The Money?

I'm Not Doing It For the Warthog and the Pine Cone

Calling God Allah: What's In A Name?

If You Don't Like Her, Take It Up With Jesus

Why This Evangelical Christian Minister Does Not Support Huckabee

So What If He's A Mormon?

Was Joseph Smith Really a Prophet of God?

Is Mormonism Really a Cult? Let's Finally Settle This Once and For All

Oh, That Horrible Christianity!

Pro-Choice Christmas Card?

Is Persecution Good For The Church?

Was Judas Forgiven?

Can A Christian Be Pragmatic?

Oh Yeah? Well David Did Alot of Stupid Things

Score Another For The Religion of Peace

Don't Protest! After All, "Agenda" Is Your Middle Name

A Politically Correct Thanksgiving Message For Kids

Evidently Christians Don't Hold A Monopoly On Stupidity

Behavior Not Even A Christian Apologist Can Defend

How To Cause A Muslim Freudian Slip

 

The Bob Siegel Show can be heard every Sunday from 3:00 to 4:00 PM on KCBQ 1170 on the dial or KCBQ.com to listen live over the Internet.

Call in toll free number if you want to join in the program with questions or comments:

1-888-344-1170

Bob’s website is: www.bobsiegel.net

 

 

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Oh Sure! He Kind Of, Sort Of, Said It, But He Didn't Really Say It!

A recent comment on my blog chastised me for taking the words of Rev. Jeremiah Wright out of context.

 

Yes, that’s the quick defense today: We have to understand the context.  Actually I’m a big believer in context.  I’m a Christian apologist after all, and the Bible is unfairly taken out of context quite frequently. But in the case of Rev. Wright, we need to slow down, because his defenders are trying some slight of hand.

 

First of all, there’s a difference between understanding the context of a speech and trying to do mental gymnastics that spin and distort in an attempt to tell us that a man didn’t really say what we heard him say.

 

No I have not listened to every speech this pastor gave for the last twenty years, nor do I intend to waste my time. But the words that found their way to the media were far more than sound bites. They were large portions of rhetoric that made their points and could not possibly be interpreted any other way. Is anyone trying to say that Wright did not blame America for 9/11?  He did not say the chickens had come home to roost? And the stuff about Aids?  Wright did not say that white people invented this virus to destroy black people?

 

You see, nobody is denying what the man actually said. Neither are they claiming that the words have different meanings when heard in context. The claim is that if we could understand the plight of the African-American and the unique style of black churches, the heated statements could be more easily tolerated.  That’s the kind of context people are asking us to consider and that’s the kind of context that should be put back out in the pasture where it belongs. It’s a magic act. Without providing any actual examples of messages that change when put in context, Wright’s supporters are hoping that sympathy for his cause will distract us and deceive us into thinking that the hateful words were adequately explained or defended.

 

I’ve visited African-American churches. Not once did I hear that kind of racist venom. In fact, lumping all black people into one Trinity United basket is a stereotype that smacks of yes; I’ll say it, racism. If I were an African –American, I would be insulted that someone wanted to exploit my history to defend a man like Rev. Wright.  As for saying our country needs a dialogue about race, I believe we have been doing little else but dialoging about race since the 60’s. Yes our country has a shameful past of slavery and segregation. For some civil rights leaders this will never be over. If it were to end, they would have no purpose anymore. They are used to promoting hate because they know how to package hate, making it as comfortable as old leather. And when they talk about “reparations for slavery” they ignore the many reparations that already characterize our history. Was not the Civil War itself reparation?  How many people from the North and the South died so that slavery could end?  How much blood was shed, innocent blood as well as evil blood? How about the many years of Affirmative Action?  No, that’s not enough. It will never be enough. If we were to ask certain civil rights leaders to give us some kind of detailed scenario, or some kind of monetary figure that will draw the line in the sand and declare that African-Americans have been repaid in full once and for all, they would not know what to say because they don’t really want it to ever end. Oh, they’ll give hints and examples. Already I’ve heard scary things like “land-redistribution.”  All this does is fan the flame, especially since not one black man of this generation was ever owned by one white man of this generation. The same could be said one hundred years ago, when my grandfathers came to America by escaping the pogroms of Russia, victims of racism themselves. My family never owned slaves.  Neither did our accumulated wealth ever come close to Michael Jackson or Michael Jordan or Whoopee Goldberg.  But if my ancestors never owned slaves, they once were slaves, slaves to the Egyptians. Say, isn’t Egypt on the continent of Africa?  Wait a minute!  I’m getting a great idea here! Maybe African-Americans owe reparations to Jews!

 

 Is it starting to sound stupid?  Yes, and I’ll tell you why. This dialogue that our nation needs to have about race?  We’ve had it.  And since we’ve had it, we need to put Rev. Wright's words in the only context that truly matters; the context of honest intention. The man said what he meant and meant what he said no matter how many rabbits we try to pull out of the hat.  Good thing rabbits can’t ask for reparations. We’d owe them big time.

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

 

Also by Bob Siegel:

 

Obama Didn't Know His Pastor's Views? Sure, Now I'll Tell One

 

Would Obama's Christianity Be Recognized by Jesus?

 

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Hillary's Hilarity Through Hills of History

Our poor Democrat friends are faced with a tough dilemma this election year. Do they pick a man who can’t remember what his pastor taught for twenty years or do they pick a woman with a better memory, indeed a memory so good she remembers things that did not in fact happen? Either way, the word memory will never be confused for Democrat in future additions of Webster’s Dictionary.

 

Wanting to impress us with her foreign policy experience, Hillary spoke of a time she visited Bosnia with a CBS news crew and had to duck shell fire. Only one problem: CBS (uncharacteristically doing its job for once), produced footage of the adventure in question and no such shellfire occurred.

 

Hillary has since corrected her story, claming that she misspoke.  Clinton apologists like Lonny Davis say we should give the poor woman a break. After all, how many of us get every detail right when we relay events of our lives?

 

Let’s be clear: Hillary did not misspeak. Neither did she make a mistake. She lied. She lied through her teeth.  One can forget what they ate for lunch a number of years ago or the color of the helicopter they flew in. They can even forget what kind of purse they carried or what kind of lipstick they wore. Nobody forgets whether or not they were under shellfire.  Why would she lie about such a thing, especially in this day and age of video?  I couldn’t presume to tell you. I do not understand what makes a liar tick. Neither can I explain all the surprise.  It’s not like this is the first Clinton lie to grace the news. Had she said something that for once was proven to be true, that would be a headline! Maybe lying is so second nature to them that they speak first and try to clean up the mess afterwards.  Or maybe they are so used to getting away with it that they simply don’t worry about it anymore. Who knows?

 

While we’re on the subject, Hillary has corrected a few other careless statements made over the years.

 

It seems she never ducked shellfire at the Alamo either. Yes, she was there but before the big battle.  She wanted the Americans to throw down their weapons, promote an open boarder/open fort policy and allow Santa Anna’s men to be welcomed in the name of compassion.

 

Neither did she witness the parting of the Red Sea, although she did serve as a peace envoy between the aggressive Israelites and the poor Egyptians whose land had been occupied by Hebrew slaves and ravaged with Ten Plagues.

 

Hillary did not sign the Declaration of Independence either. But she did drop in on the Constitutional Convention, asking them to bag the whole document altogether and place us under international law.

 

Oh!  One more!  It’s only a rumor that Hillary hid inside The Trojan Horse with Ulysses. But she did approve of the horse because it was the closest the Greeks came to embracing her advice about putting a timetable on the war.

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

 

 

Some of Bob’s other controversial posts:

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One Thing We Can Know Right Away Posted at 11:53:06 AM on Thursday, December 27, 2007

 

Maybe Next Time Big Bird Can Be The Moderator Posted at 1:16:39 AM on Saturday, December 15, 2007

 

2007 Oh, That Horrible Christianity!

Posted at 4:53:43 AM on Thursday, December 13, 2007

 

The Bob Siegel Show can be heard every Sunday from 3:00 to 4:00 PM on KCBQ 1170 on the dial or KCBQ.com to listen live over the Internet.

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Can I Say Something To You In Love?

“Can I say something to you in love?”  If you’re a Christian, those are familier words.  You have heard them often. You have also discovered that your fellow Christians tend to shroud things in spirituality. They seldom, if ever, take responsibility for their own actions. Everything is “Spirit led” or “directed by God,” or “inspired.” Sometimes, the ruder they are, the more spiritual we deem them.  Sometimes, raw, unbridled, bluntness is viewed with the status of prophecy.

 

Our response, ofcourse, is also scripted. If somebody asks if they can say something in love we are supposed to respond, “Oh sure.”  After all, to do otherwise is to quench the Spirit. To challenge the statement is to disobey God. It is simply impossible that this person is sharing with us because they like to hear themselves talk or because they enjoy meddling into matters that are none of their business. No, if they took the time to confront you, rest assured, they were led by the Lord.

 

Over the years, I have developed a response to the question, “Can I say something to you in love?”  My response is, “No.”

 

That’s right. No!  After their jaws drop down to their shoes, (surprised at my sudden lapse of spirituality) I explain.  “If you need to preface your comment like that, I know it is not something I am going to want to hear. I’m sure I can use a lot of advice to straighten out my life but I would prefer to ask for the critique myself. I no longer accept unsolicited advice, so no, you can not say what you want to say.  Not even in love.”

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

 

Other posts about the Bible and Christianity, its relationship to other religions and its relationship to today’s culture

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Part Two: How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part 3

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part Four

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian Part Five

Does The Bible Teach An Age of Accountability?

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 Subsiding All The Passion Over "The Passion"

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Three Questions That Test Your Friend's Opinions Posted at 5:08:47 AM on Monday, December 24, 2007

What is the Unforgivable Sin and How Do I Know If I've Committed It? Posted at 1:39:18 PM on Tuesday, January 01, 2008

Does The Bible Teach That God Is Everything or that God Created Everything? Posted at 11:07:40 AM on Friday, December 28, 2007

Was Jesus A False Prophet? Posted at 11:43:45 AM on Friday, December 21, 2007

Cherry Picking Our Doctrines Posted at 3:49:31 AM on Tuesday, December 18, 2007

 St. Bob's Epistle To The Calvinists Posted at 1:15:38 AM on Monday, December 17, 2007

How Do We Know Which Manuscript Copies Truly Belong In The Bible?

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Why This Evangelical Christian Minister Does Not Support Huckabee

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How To Cause A Muslim Freudian Slip

 

The Bob Siegel Show can be heard every Sunday from 3:00 to 4:00 PM on KCBQ 1170 on the dial or KCBQ.com to listen live over the Internet.

Call in toll free number if you want to join in the program with questions or comments:

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Rev. Wright and Christ? Oh Yeah! I get Those Guys Confused All the Time

Rev. Otis Moss, the new pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ, has been defending the former Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright against the onslaught of criticism brought on due to Obama’s candidacy. Indeed, he has compared the treatment of Rev. Wright to the crucifixion of Jesus.

 

Look, I know we just had Easter and something about that holiday makes us want to compare everything to Christ, but this one stretches in ways  the Silly Putty makers couldn’t even dream about. It’s like comparing a slick Broadway presentation of Le Miserables to Mrs. McGreggor’s kindergarten class play.

 

Crucifixion is one of the most torturous forms of execution the world has ever seen. Wright has experienced nothing even close to that. I doubt that his life has ever been in danger. I doubt if he has even been in any real trouble asside from a parking ticket or two. If we really feel compelled to compare him with Jesus, the comparison is twofold: Wright likes to justify his behavior in the name of Jesus and Wright, like Jesus, has been publicly criticized.  But these comparisons are somewhat lacking in credibility. Jim Jones claimed to be following Jesus too. He also claimed to be God and led 900 people into the wilderness to commit suicide. The Ku Klux Klan also claims to be following Jesus. After all, those fires they set on people’s front lawns are shaped like crosses. So the mere fact that one claims to be a follower of Jesus means nothing to me. As for both men being criticized, yes that happens. It happens to any public figure. Abraham Lincoln was criticized. So was Al Capone. Does anyone ever confuse the two men because they were each criticized?  What was the nature of the criticism?  Was it warranted?  These are the only relevant questions.

 

When the honorable Rev. Wright apologizes for his racist, inflammatory remarks, when he takes back his stupid statements about white people inventing Aids, or America deserving 9/11, when he offers the real hope and forgiveness of Jesus and gets criticized for that, when he suffers or even dies for taking a stand on issues that matter, then, and only then we can maybe compare him with Jesus.  Until that time, I think I’ve heard about all I care to from Trinity United. They are about as united as a game of Risk, 6 hours into the match.

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

 

Also by Bob Siegel:

 

Obama Didn't Know His Pastor's Views? Sure, Now I'll Tell One

 

Would Obama's Christianity Be Recognized by Jesus?

 

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From Cartoons to Khartoum

Maybe it’s because we grew up on Yogi Bear and Huckleberry Hound. Maybe that’s why cartoons seem less offensive to Americans than to other nationalities.

 

Ezra Levant, publisher of the Canada’s late, Western Standard Magazine is in legal trouble for reprinting those nasty Danish cartoons about Mohammad. So far it’s looking pretty bleak for Mr. Levant. One of the criticisms from the prosecution is that these cartoons might incite violence. Oh, you think?  They might incite violence?  Look again. They already have! Muslims have killed people around the world because of these cartoons, from Pakistan, to Afghanistan to Sudan.  But that is not the source of violence the Canadian government is concerned about. They are concerned that people will persecute Muslims. This has not happened, even though Islam pays homage to a book that is overtly anti- Christian and Anti- Semitic.  But worry not. We won't live to see the day when commands to kill all non-Muslims are viewed as hate speech. The Bible, on the other hand?  With words in Romans about how unnatural it is for men to have sex with other men? That’s hate speech! Building a crucifix in urine? That’s art. Drawing a cartoon of Mohammad? That’s hate speech. See how it works?  If you were visiting this world from another planet and you sent home a report, your fellow Martians would never believe you.

 

The other criticism of Ezra Levant would make me laugh if it wasn’t so scary. “Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to offend.”

 

Excuse me?  Freedom of speech means exactly that!  If our forefathers did not know that speech would sometimes offend, why did they protect the right to freedom of speech?  If nobody was ever going to be offended, the First Amendment was unnecessary.

 

I must say: Yogi Bear and Huckleberry Hound are starting to sound a lot more intelligent about now.

 

Also by Bob Siegel:

 

Obama Didn't Know His Pastor's Views? Sure, Now I'll Tell One

 

Would Obama's Christianity Be Recognized by Jesus?

 

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If The Gospel Was Fake, This Would Have Been A Really Dumb Thing To Include

 

On Easter Sunday morning, Christians all over the world will be celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Atheists and other skeptics will marvel that large groups of people could be so stupid and naïve.  After all, the resurrection is a miracle and a scientific mind can’t accept miracles, right?  But the Bible is criticized on historical grounds as well. The four gospels are deemed untrustworthy even to the small details of inaccurately reporting the culture they came from. 

 

In point of fact, the gospels measure quite well when compared to other history of the ancient world. On my website, you can find many articles defending the Bible and the historicity of the resurrection.  But this morning, for Easter Sunday, allow me to bring up just one small but interesting caveat. 

 

Sometimes, the complaints people have about the Bible contradict themselves. Yes, accuracy is one concern. The Bible coming out of a chauvinistic culture is another area of major contention.  Actually, the Bible is not a chauvinistic document but it does indeed come out of a male dominated world. To the Romans, the Greeks and the Jews (the three major cultures converging when the New Testament was written) women were viewed as little more than property. Interestingly enough, this makes the gospel accounts very noteworthy. If these writings were crafted by men who wanted to deceive and influence their peers why was Mary Magdalene reported as the first to encounter the resurrected Christ?  She met Jesus before the others. She also reported the meeting to Jesus’ male disciples, who at first, did not believe her (John 20:10-20, Luke 20:9-12).  In those days, reporting that a woman had been the first to witness the resurrection would not have been the shrewdest way to commit fraud and generate a legend. So why did they write the gospels that way?  Maybe because that’s the way it really happened?  Just a thought.

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.


Other posts about the Bible and Christianity, its relationship to other religions and its relationship to today’s culture

Does the Bible Really Speak About the Future?

My Brief Time In the Occult

Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:34 AM

How a Reformed Jew Became An Evangelical Christian Part One Posted at 1:17:45 PM on Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Part Two: How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part 3

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part Four

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian Part Five

Does The Bible Teach An Age of Accountability?

Christianity, Judaism and Islam: Comparison Posted at 2:33:20 AM on Sunday, January 20, 2008

 Subsiding All The Passion Over "The Passion"

Friday, January 11, 2008 11:29 PM

Peace In The Middle East? I believe in the Tooth Fairy Too Posted at 12:19:09 AM on Tuesday, November 27, 2007

Was Jesus Gay? Posted at 1:40:29 PM on Friday,

Three Questions That Test Your Friend's Opinions Posted at 5:08:47 AM on Monday, December 24, 2007

What is the Unforgivable Sin and How Do I Know If I've Committed It? Posted at 1:39:18 PM on Tuesday, January 01, 2008

Does The Bible Teach That God Is Everything or that God Created Everything? Posted at 11:07:40 AM on Friday, December 28, 2007

Was Jesus A False Prophet? Posted at 11:43:45 AM on Friday, December 21, 2007

Cherry Picking Our Doctrines Posted at 3:49:31 AM on Tuesday, December 18, 2007

 St. Bob's Epistle To The Calvinists Posted at 1:15:38 AM on Monday, December 17, 2007

How Do We Know Which Manuscript Copies Truly Belong In The Bible?

Friday, January 11, 2008 1:5

Why Are There Different Versions of the Bible?

Is The DaVinci Code Something to be Taken Seriously?

How Does One Become a Christian?

Are Christian Ministers Just In It For The Money?

I'm Not Doing It For the Warthog and the Pine Cone

Calling God Allah: What's In A Name?

If You Don't Like Her, Take It Up With Jesus

Why This Evangelical Christian Minister Does Not Support Huckabee

So What If He's A Mormon?

Was Joseph Smith Really a Prophet of God?

Is Mormonism Really a Cult? Let's Finally Settle This Once and For All

Oh, That Horrible Christianity!

Pro-Choice Christmas Card?

Is Persecution Good For The Church?

Was Judas Forgiven?

Can A Christian Be Pragmatic?

Oh Yeah? Well David Did Alot of Stupid Things

Score Another For The Religion of Peace

Don't Protest! After All, "Agenda" Is Your Middle Name

A Politically Correct Thanksgiving Message For Kids

Evidently Christians Don't Hold A Monopoly On Stupidity

Behavior Not Even A Christian Apologist Can Defend

How To Cause A Muslim Freudian Slip

 

The Bob Siegel Show can be heard every Sunday from 3:00 to 4:00 PM on KCBQ 1170 on the dial or KCBQ.com to listen live over the Internet.

Call in toll free number if you want to join in the program with questions or comments:

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Yes He Finally Gave The Speech. Now Exactly What Did He Say?


 

 

It’s the hottest topic on TV, radio and newspapers. Obama finally gave a speech.  He finally responded to questions about his relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

 

Some are heralding this as the greatest public address since Martin Luther King.  Others are breathing a sigh of relief because Obama said everything he needed to say and finally put this politically embarrassing mess behind him.  Still, others, after listening to the speech several times, have no idea what the man actually said.  Well, be of good cheer.  Your ol’ pal Bob is going to decipher the speech for you.

 

You see, Obama thinks it’s sad that we can’t put race behind us. If we could just get off the issue of race, we might be able to ignore the words of his pastor for twenty years who taught that white people invented the AIDS virus to destroy black people. We should not make a big deal out of those words even though, incidentally, Obama never actually heard those words spoken in church and yet he did hear something like that spoken in church and he clearly denounces such words. But, (and this is very important) while he denounces those hurtful speeches of Rev. Wright, he does not disassociate himself from Rev. Wright. He still respects this man and we need to understand where Wright is coming from. Why?  Because even though race should not be an issue in the campaign we do need to understand the anger that black people feel toward white people.  And Obama is uniquely qualified to bring blacks and whites together because he has a white mother and a black father. But even though he is qualified to bring us together, race should have nothing to do with the election and it has had nothing to do with his campaign.  Now we have a choice:  We can dwell on the words of Rev. Wright or we can move on. If we move on we will see change, that magic word that we had forgotten in the face of a candidate who attended a racist church for twenty years.  But if we could just forget about this church and if we could also seek to understand this church and the anger of black people and if we could also just forget about race altogether, we could return to the agenda of change. What kind of change will Obama bring about? More money will be poured into government institutions, which means higher taxes and mandatory redistribution of wealth.  If this looks like typical, liberal, Democrat rhetoric and if you are wondering where the change is, just remember that Obama will bring about change by reaching across the isle and offering unity.  It’s time to bring our country together by forgetting racism and remembering how racist of a country we really are or really were but will not always be if he is elected.  And if those who keep bringing up race by objecting to racist comments in church could realize that they are being part of the problem instead of the solution, and if Republicans could just accept all of his Democratic ideas, then indeed, we will see real unity and real change.  Once again, he is uniquely gifted to bring about such change because of his multi-ethnic background. That makes him the man to help us forget about race once and for all.

 

Are we clear?  No?  Well here’s something we can be clear about. If we, as a nation, elect this man, it means we deserve this man.

 

Also by Bob Siegel:

 

Obama Didn't Know His Pastor's Views? Sure, Now I'll Tell One

 

Would Obama's Christianity Be Recognized by Jesus?


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Admit That We Are Peaceful Or We'll Kill You

I talk much about the religion of Islam these days and my friends have urged me to tone it down a little.  What do they want me to tone down?  Namely this:

I keep hearing about how Islam is really a religion of peace. Supposedly, a few terrorists have hijacked and distorted this peaceful faith.  I'm not buying it.  For one thing, the only evidence we have for Islam's "peacefulness" is that Muslims keep telling us how peaceful they are.  But they don't offer a shred of evidence to that effect. Can you think of one Muslim run country that displays human rights? Can you think of one alternative government with a large Muslim population that is not a country in turmoil?

Yes, there is such a thing as a nominal Muslim, one who is born in a Muslim country, one who would call himself Muslim and one who is genuinely peaceful. But such people are unaware of what the Koran actually teaches.  The Jihad commands of the Koran ore undeniable to anyone who honestly understands Islam.

OK, now here's my point today. What I just said was nothing new. You have heard it on my radio show. You have read it on my blogs. As I said, my friends have asked me to tone it down.  Why?  Because they worry about me. They are afraid that these words will anger some Muslims and that such anger puts my life in danger.  You see, the Muslims might get so upset over me denying how peaceful they are that they might want to kill me to teach me a lesson.  You just have to see the irony.

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.


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The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Twelve

NOTE: This is Part Twelve of a series. For your convenience, the first eleven parts are linked below, followed by today's article.

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part One

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Two

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Three

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Four

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Five

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Six

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Seven

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Eight

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Nine

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Ten

The Truth About Israel and Palestine: Part Eleven

 

The theme behind this series was a simple one: Israel is not guilty of any illegal occupation. The “occupied territories” were taken during the Six Day War in response to a declaration of war from Israel’s neighbors. They took this land as a defensive posture to protect themselves from genocide, a genocide promised shamelessly by the Arabs. Even so, most of this was the same territory already promised to them under the Balfar Declaration, not to mention that this land had been their home for several thousand years before the Romans destroyed Jerusalem and changed the name of the land to Palestine.

 

There has never been a country named Palestine or a people named Palestinians. This was a publicity ploy that sucessfully deceived many under the leadership of Yassar Arafat.  And Arafat was never interested in a two state solution. He was interested in the annihilation of Israel.

 

So where does this leave us today? Would a two state solution bring peace to the Middle East?  Well, the Arabs were offered a state in 1948.  They turned it down. At that time, they already had a separate Palestinian state, Jordan and this was not enough, even though it had been carved out from 75 percent of what had been promised to the Jews. In March of 2000, after years of violating the terms of the Oslo Accords (1993) Arafat was offered  over 90 percent of the land he wanted. He turned it down. Why?  Because the man never really wanted peace. He would have had no reason to exist any more if real peace came about.

 

Today Arafat is dead. The new Palestinian leader, Mahoumad Abbas says he wants peace. But this man has written about the Holocaust in ways that would make Iranian leader Ahamadinnejad blush: Yes, more nonsense about how the Holocaust never happened.  And we are supposed to put our hope in this latest "peace lover"?  As I once heard it aptly stated, “Abbas is nothing but Arafat in a suit.”

 

The Palestine National Covenant was adapted in 1964 (once again, prior to Israel’s “illegal” occupation of the West Bank) It was revised again in 1968. This document contains 33 articles which define the specific objectives of the PLO.  Allow me to share just a few of its attractive highlights:

 

Article Two allows absolutely no provision for a Jewish state in the Middle East.

 

Article Twenty denies that the Jews have ever had any historical or religious claims to the area.

 

Article Twenty-One rejects all solutions which fall short of “the total liberation of Palestine.” Incidentally, such total liberation cannot take place until Israel ceases to exist.

 

Article Fifteen calls for the elimination of Zionism in Palestine.

 

The Oswald Accord called for the canceling of any clauses which did not recognize Israel’s right to exist but such clauses were never removed.

 

In 1993, on the same day in which Arafat signed an agreement on the White House lawn, he gave a public discourse to Palestinian Arabs on Jordan TV:

 

“Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages.  We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine and establish sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more.  When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”

 

The PLO’s Abu-al Aynawn also said: “We have to accept the deal and wait for a change in the circumstances that could lead to the elimination of Israel.”

 

Today Israel does not even show up on the maps in Palestinian schools. Kindergarten classes are taught that Jews are devils, to be hated and exterminated.

 

I myself had a chance to watch a Palestinian children’s TV Show, with a Sesame Street like costumed character talking to a cute little five year old girl in the audience.

 

“What do you want to do when you grow up, Sweetheart?” he said.

 

“I wanna kill Jews,” the adorable little girl replied.

 

The mascot winked at the audience with a big smile and then turned back to the child. “You do?  How many Jews do you want to kill?”

 

“All of them!”

 

“All of them?”

 

Isn’t that sweet?  Now exactly why would we believe that peace will come to this region if its children are taught that hating Jews is as natural a breathing?

 

When two nations make a peace treaty, there is supposed to be give and take on both sides. Israel’s deal (brokered by the U.S) always goes like this. “You give the Palestinians back some land and here is what they will do:  They’ll promise to stop killing you.”  That’s the deal. Then one day after the deal, the promise is broken and missiles are fired into Israel from Gaza (where the Palestinians were finally offered their own autonomous rule) or a suicide bomber kills women and children on a bus.

At the time of this writing, the Bush administration is still putting pressure on Israel to cooperate with “The Road Map to Peace.”  Wow!  More peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians!  This could be the greatest thing since Chamberlain met with Hitler.  I’ve been so excited; I can hardly sleep at nights.

Let me be as straight with my readers as I possibly can.  Nothing Israel does, no gesture, no concession, no discussion, will make a hill of beans of difference. They can sign a peace treaty. They can jump on board for a two state solution. It doesn’t matter.  Hezbolah wants Israel dead. Al-Qaeda wants Israel dead. Hamas wants Israel dead. But it isn’t limited to the terrorist groups. Palestine itself wants Israel dead. The surrounding Arab nations want Israel dead. The Persian nation of Iran wants Israel dead.

My advice to Israel: Just do what you have to do. Do what you need to do. Do what is right. The world will hate you no matter what action you take and the Arabs will try to kill you no matter how much flowery talk you participate in with our State Department.  You may as well just do what’s right.

 My advice to Christians: I hope you have discovered a better reason to side with Israel than theological reasons. Fascinating as prophecy may be (and I am a big believer in Bible prophecy) the issue in the Middle East is a human rights issue.

Israel is hated not because of any occupation. Israel is hated for the same reason the United States is hated: We are not Muslims. You will discover that defending Israel is only the beginning of defending the entire world.

 

Bibliography

1) From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters

2) The Complete Idiot’s Guide To Middle East

Conflict by Mitchell G. Bard, PhD

3) Philistine, by Ramon Bennett.

 

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Obama Didn't Know His Pastor's Views? Sure, Now I'll Tell One


Yes, it’s been in the news all week: Trinity United Church of Christ and its pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright, in the news because Barak Obama attended that church for many years.

In the name of Christianity, Jeremiah Wright has said the most vile things; America is responsible for 9/11, white people invented Aids to destroy black people, oh, and black people are superior to whites. Part of his justification for that last one is that Jesus  was black.

Now look, I don’t care what color Jesus was. No true Christian cares what color Jesus was. To care about such a thing is to contradict the whole message of Jesus who taught that God loves everybody regardless of race or skin color. If it so had happened that Jesus had been black, that would have been fine. It just so happens that Jesus was not black. He was Jewish. Did he have dark Mediterranean skin? Yeah, probably. But he was not black.  And yet, that’s another problem with Trinity United Church. They are so freaking anti-Semitic they would find it difficult to admit that Jesus was Jewish.

Now the news about this church and Obama’s connection has been around for a long time, but our liberal media has been ignoring it and instead making stupid comments like   “Gee When Obama speaks, I get a strange feeling going up my leg.”  Yeah, those were the real words of objective news commentator, Chris Matthews.

Nevertheless, this last week ABC news actually got a hold of some recorded speeches from this demagogue who calls himself a pastor. Now the media can’t ignore it anymore. Now Obama can’t ignore it anymore. He was finally forced to comment on the church. And just what was the comment? He really had no idea that such hateful words were being spit forth by his pastor on such a regular bases. Oh sure, he knew the guy had a few nutty ideas, kind of like the senile uncle we all have hidden in the attic somewhere.

Let’s try to think with our heads:  Obama was mentored by this man and married by this man. His children were baptized by this man. You’ve heard the guy.  You’ve heard Rev. Wright. Does he sound like the kind of person who would hide his beliefs from anybody, let alone the student he mentored? Give me a break!  The very suggestion that Obama had no idea what the man stood for insults our intelligence. But then, intelligence has had nothing to do with Obama’s campaign. People who follow him know absolutely nothing about him except that he offers change. But now the fat is in the fire and Obama has really set himself up good. He claims that when those vile speeches were being delivered he was absent from church those particular days. Oh what a dangerous statement to make in this day and age, this technological day and age when every Junior High age kid has a cell phone with a camera. If we find any video proving that Obama ever sat through one of these poisonous sermons, the jig is up. Well, it’s up for some people. Others will still follow this man like the pied piper. Already people are making excuses for his pastor saying that the man is being heard out of context.

Sure. That must be it. He was heard out of context. When he said that God should condemn America, he meant that God should bless America. When he says that black people are superior to whites, he means that all men are created equal.  Yeah, we just need to hear the poor guy in context. Hitler was taken out of context too.  When he said the Germans were the master race he meant that all men were brothers and should join hands.

 

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

Also by Bob Siegel:

 

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How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian: Part Four

How a Reformed Jew Became an Evangelical Christian Part Five

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